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Liverpool out of title race in record time

With a couple of rare exceptions, Liverpool has made a habit of being out of the title race by Christmas in the last 20 years, even by November on occasions but something of a record must have been set this season. Five matches while still in the middle of September and the white flag has already gone up by manager Roy Hodgson who has publicly admitted that it’s not realistic for his side to win the title.

Former Anfield hero Mark Wright backs the manager saying that in his opinion “Hodgson got that in early so everyone understands where he’s coming from and I like that, an early judgement, making a statement now.”

Talking about Liverpool is starting to become a little tedious now but with the Old Trafford clash out of the way, there should no longer be any reason to keep bringing them up so that’s it. I promise that there will be no more Liverpool talk, well, until the next time.

You almost have to start feeling sorry for the thousands of Liverpool fans. Here we are, the season has barely commenced and the only ambition left for them apart from trying to win one of the tinpot cups available is merely to stop United from winning title number 19. And they will be prepared to sink to any depths of embarrassment to achieve that as shown by their shameful surrender to Chelsea at the end of last season.

Scenes of a half empty Anfield for the Europa League clash with Steaua Bucharest last week was ample evidence that this is going to be a hell of a long, long season for them. They may even start finding themselves walking alone!

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  1. King Scouse says:

    Were we ever really in it? See what happens with new owners.

    YNWA

  2. King Scouse says:

    Fair dues, you played well, it was a good game.

  3. Simon Worden says:

    What? Like YOUR tinpot excuse for a vulture like outfit sorry piece of shit football club (and you don’t even USE those words anymore in your official name – how sad) ambition EVERY year is to overtake us and yet you NEVER do. You haven’t done in League Title stakes for WELL over 3 decades now and you WON’T this year either given that Chelsea are a class above EVERY other side in the country including your pathetic little outfit as put together by the drunken Taggart alike. Fuck off you condescending little prat. Our ambition is to FREE our club of the dead weight of AMERICAN DEBT – Never mind the trash about overtaking or stopping your piece of crap sorry side winning Number 19. WE want our club free of American Debt again – If you weren’t so SAD and obsessed with all things Liverpool (do your robotic hordes of drooling sheep EVER sing about ANY other side? Without even REALISING just WHERE their star player is from? Well the ONE star player they’ve got left anyway that hasn’t gone to Madrid or taken a step UP from Old Trafford.

    I’ll tell you something else? We’re a LOT closer to freeing OUR club of it’s American Dead Weights and getting PROPER owners who can fund us properly than YOUR useless “green and gold” rubbish and other such useless campaigns are to freeing YOUR side from the Yanks. Hicks and Gillette may be gone by October – they WILL be gone by seasons end – What of the Glazers idiot? And then? Whilst United experience ALL we have in the last couple of seasons – Drowning in debt as star players are sold one by one, their squad being weakened from within or ageing withOUT replacements despite the dire need for such and protests ignored by deaf owners out ONLY for a profit? As you experience ALL that? We’ll come back UP Straight past you and wave on the way – because? As well as NOT getting near the title this season – You’ve given up a goal lead at Fulham, a TWO goal lead v Everton and ANOTHER two goal lead v Us – Have Chelsea let IN a goal yet? – United are going only ONE way – Straight DOWN, whilst Liverpool? Like the bird on their emblem WILL rise again – As they always do. Enjoy the fall – You’ve a LONG way to go. Yesterday will be the LAST time you’ll be able to mock us for a LONG while and I hope you have your tissues ready to cry into for March WHEN we take revenge at Anfield. United have a LONG long road back ahead of them after their Fall which has ALREADY begun – Us? We’ve nearly completed ours OFF the pitch – We’ll wave as we pass you. You really have NO idea what’s coming do you? You’ll find out soon enough, ALL you United mob will – But You’ll wish you hadn’t………………/

  4. Paisleytie says:

    Simon’s words are indeed prophetic and any United fan should study their team’s financial plight very carefully before having another sad swipe at the mickey mousers. LFC’s cash strapped nightmare may soon be nearing an end but United’s is only beginning and with a debt FOUR TIMES that of LFC, they are in a different league altogether. ‘Citeh’ are still just about far enough behind to be considered worthy of a dig or two, but perhaps a couple of seasons down the road things will be painfully different. Simon’s prediction of asset stripping is but the blink of an eye away along with a ‘sell to buy’ transfer policy a la LFC. Add to this the long over due retirement for MUFC’s true inspiration SAF and the future looks bleak. As much as our respective fans hate each other and their teams, the destruction of these great institutions benefits no one and football as a whole suffers and is degraded by the day. Abramovich set the standard for buying success and competitors it seems must copy that strategy or die. Ferguson’s United have had a good run, maybe the best of all runs, but can you honestly, hand on heart see it continuing much longer?

  5. EDDIE WAKER says:

    GREEN AND GOLD SCARVES TAGART STAYING TILL HE IS 90 CRERAND AND MACARI AND THE IRISH VOMIT (DUNPHY)THE SAME MIND NUMBING GARBAGE WHEN THE YANKIE MAFIA HAVE GONE WE WILL RETURN TO OUR RIGHTFUL PLACE REMEMBER THE FAMOUS MAN UTD WENT TO THE ROME TO SEE THE POPE AND THIS WHAT HE SAID WHO THE FUCK ARE MAN UTD IT IS LIVERPOOL THAT WILL BE MARCHING ON ON ON

  6. Andrew C says:

    emmmm.. ok lads.. get a grip.. liverpool fans every august are like england fans every four years.. “this is our year” haha gowls!!! we battered ye on sunday.. we controlled and pressed and penetrated yere pathetic defense for 45 minutes and ye were lucky we didn’t pull out of sight.. 1-0 going into the second half and we continued to play intense flowing football.. 2-0 and a stonewall spotter was rightly awarded, scored and celebrated.. same scenario for the free kick, right decision and a good outcome for ye 2-2.. but fernando torres should be shot brought back to life and shot again.. disgraceful fuckin behavior trying dirty tactics to get o shea sent off.. and before you start to moan about ronaldo or nani or what not, yes they dive but purposefully trying to get players sent off.. FUCK OFF MAGGOTS.. then the last 15 mins.. we did what we almost always do, we fought back to victory once more.. you say we are looking at your club like voyeurs, take a look in the mirror simon. yes we want glazers out but while united are run like a proper football club not a comedic laugh like lfc victories on the pitch will one day rid us of our debt with or without the glazers.. manchester united make 3million per home game.. always a sell out or close enough.. where were you last thursday night pffft!!! shut your mouth dip shit!!!! Manchester United are the envy of you all, deal with it… and also chelseas season only starts this week!!! U u u Nii Ted – UNITED ARE THE TEAM FOR ME… etc.. hahaha slan leath go raibh maith agat!!!!

  7. Frank Scicluna says:

    Comments like those of Simon Worden, Paisleytie and Eddie Wanker – sorry, that should be Waker, only confirms the pity that one must have for some Liverpool fans as stated in the article “You almost have to start feeling sorry for the thousands of Liverpool fans.” They could not contribute anything but bitter frustration, envy and nonsensical juvenile opinions.

    Have a look and digest the first couple of comments from your fellow Anfield fan King Scouse guys. Brief, to the point and thoughtful when he correctly states “See what happens with new owners.” Just goes to show that there are after all, a few intelligent Liverpool fans!

  8. Simon Worden says:

    Andrew C – “Manchester United are the envy of you all?” Hmm, just tell me a moment Idiot WHOSE fans sing about burning WHOSE on bonfires as I don’t hear many Manc’ based songs at LIVERPOOL games – As to the rest of your utter CRAP in that so-called ‘post’ saddo? Alex Ferguson LEARNED all he knows from the one manager who can (and DID) crap on him from a great height – Bob Paisley – WHOSE Teams do you think your great sides of the 90’s were based on – Fergie built a United version of LIVERPOOL!!! “The envy of you all”? I think not – United want to BE Liverpool NOT the other way around – We’re STILL ahead of you in European Trophies AND trophies overall – Deal with it but you can’t can you? Hence your CRAP here – The ENVY of us shines through in EVERY word – Always has done – Always WILL do – United want to BE Liverpool.

    Basically, I said you are “voyeurs” to our club because? You ARE – The FIRST thing Fergie did when he came down from Aberdeen was go on record about how he wanted to oust Liverpool and occupy THEIR position at the top of English Football – He spoke of his envy of their resources and brilliant sides at that time MANY times in interviews. Since then? Despite hardly a challenge from us – He goes on NON-STOP about us as does your ENTIRE Fanbase – ALL he does is talk of overtaking us as do your players and fans – It CONSUMES you – You want to BE Us as in “THE most SUCCESSFUL Club in England” which currently? You are NOT. Our clubs used to be friends as recently as the 60’s – Liverpool LENT United players after Munich so they could Field a team, Shankly, Busby, Paisley and Docherty were ALL great friends of one another and even Ron Atkinson got on OK with Joe Fagan and Kenny Dalglish – But not Ferguson – HE poisoned the well, HE killed all that – HE started this war and now? After THREE Decades nearly? He STILL can’t win it – How he must HATE us for that…………

    As to your “victories on the pitch” ridding you of debt? Are you utterly THICK and devoid of mental capability? To ACHIEVE those victories you NEED to spend more on players – the MORE you do that? The more the money EARNED from those victories goes on paying off the debts you incur BUYING those players – VERY little of it pays off the total debt as you’re always to busy reinvesting it in the team to stay on top but ALL the time – Your truly MASSIVE debt which DWARFS Liverpool’s by about 5 times over is getting bigger and bigger and bigger and……Something HAS to give eventually and I wouldn’t be at ALL surprised to see United go bankrupt under the weight of their debt LONG before they pay it off. United can be as “properly run” as they like but they will NOT withstand the sheer MOUNTAIN of debt they are already GROANING under forever and one day VERY soon? There WILL be a reckoning…………..

    And to your other verbal diarrhea? Last Thursday Night? I was watching MY team show YOURS how it’s done at HOME in Europe against a BETTER European Side than the rubbish Scots outfit who held your two bob outfit at HOME (you battered them 3 – 0 last time you played them there – Oh for the days of Diego Forlan eh? Never mind Van Nistlerooy, Solksjaer and of course Ronaldo – ALL long gone – Poor United).

    BTW – You said about trying to get players sent off? I seem to remember YOUR mob trying to get Carra’ sent off at Anfield for EXACTLY the same offence last season (and failing to) AND I remember in 2003 when we conceded a penalty at OT in the NINTH minute and a Yellow Card for Hyppia was changed to a RED after Gary Neville harangued Mike Riley – Strangely silent about THAT aren’t you Fool? Also? Luke Chadwick in 2000 and Nemanja Vidic in 2009 were BOTH sent off for EXACTLY what O’Shea did on Sunday when their victims (Vladimir Smicer and Steven Gerrard) were FURTHER away from goal than Fernando Torres was so WHY should O’Shea have stayed on? Nani or Ronaldo dive “purposefully – trying to get players sent off?” so you ADMIT it then? You’ve just TORPEDOED your OWN argument prat – WHAT comeback can a United fan MOANING about Torres have after admitting his OWN cheating bunch of showponie…..ahem Players are DIVERS to? Exactly, NONE.

    Never mind how “purposeful/penetrating” and supposedly great your football was on Sunday – We’ll dish out the SAME to you with INTEREST in March at Anfield – You’ve LOST there on your last two visits and it WILL be 3 in a row in March 2011. We Will BATTER YOU……Again and your second rate outfit will have NO favourable Home Ref’ decisions like Webb’s leniency on Sunday to save you THIS time – Nothing on Earth will save you from defeat when you come to Anfield – Just remember Andrew? What goes around? Comes around and the Wheel of Life is Bringing around TO United now a taster of what Liverpool have suffered for 2 decades now whilst for Liverpool? Who knows? Maybe a return to where they once were and after all Ferguson’s work to, he’s STILL behind us with little chance of catching us in the foreseeable due to that Rampant Chelsea side who are roaring away at the top already – No wonder he hates us – I would to if I was him. Oh well, the names, insults etc are all in jest no? It’s only football and we should BOTH be proud that no English side comes (or Will Come) CLOSE to either of our sides in Honours Won. We Each stand alone at the Top. Until next we joust…………….. Andrew C – “Manchester United are the envy of you all?” Hmm, just tell me a moment Idiot WHOSE fans sing about burning WHOSE on bonfires as I don’t hear many Manc’ based songs at LIVERPOOL games – As to the rest of your utter CRAP in that so-called ‘post’ saddo? Alex Ferguson LEARNED all he knows from the one manager who can (and DID) crap on him from a great height – Bob Paisley – WHOSE Teams do you think your great sides of the 90’s were based on – Fergie built a United version of LIVERPOOL!!! “The envy of you all”? I think not – United want to BE Liverpool NOT the other way around – We’re STILL ahead of you in European Trophies AND trophies overall – Deal with it but you can’t can you? Hence your CRAP here – The ENVY of us shines through in EVERY word – Always has done – Always WILL do – United want to BE Liverpool.

    Basically, I said you are “voyeurs” to our club because? You ARE – The FIRST thing Fergie did when he came down from Aberdeen was go on record about how he wanted to oust Liverpool and occupy THEIR position at the top of English Football – He spoke of his envy of their resources and brilliant sides at that time MANY times in interviews. Since then? Despite hardly a challenge from us – He goes on NON-STOP about us as does your ENTIRE Fanbase – ALL he does is talk of overtaking us as do your players and fans – It CONSUMES you – You want to BE Us as in “THE most SUCCESSFUL Club in England” which currently? You are NOT. Our clubs used to be friends as recently as the 60’s – Liverpool LENT United players after Munich so they could Field a team, Shankly, Busby, Paisley and Docherty were ALL great friends of one another and even Ron Atkinson got on OK with Joe Fagan and Kenny Dalglish – But not Ferguson – HE poisoned the well, HE killed all that – HE started this war and now? After THREE Decades nearly? He STILL can’t win it – How he must HATE us for that…………

    As to your “victories on the pitch” ridding you of debt? Are you utterly THICK and devoid of mental capability? To ACHIEVE those victories you NEED to spend more on players – the MORE you do that? The more the money EARNED from those victories goes on paying off the debts you incur BUYING those players – VERY little of it pays off the total debt as you’re always to busy reinvesting it in the team to stay on top but ALL the time – Your truly MASSIVE debt which DWARFS Liverpool’s by about 5 times over is getting bigger and bigger and bigger and……Something HAS to give eventually and I wouldn’t be at ALL surprised to see United go bankrupt under the weight of their debt LONG before they pay it off. United can be as “properly run” as they like but they will NOT withstand the sheer MOUNTAIN of debt they are already GROANING under forever and one day VERY soon? There WILL be a reckoning…………..

    And to your other verbal diarrhea? Last Thursday Night? I was watching MY team show YOURS how it’s done at HOME in Europe against a BETTER European Side than the rubbish Scots outfit who held your two bob outfit at HOME (you battered them 3 – 0 last time you played them there – Oh for the days of Diego Forlan eh? Never mind Van Nistlerooy, Solksjaer and of course Ronaldo – ALL long gone – Poor United).

    BTW – You said about trying to get players sent off? I seem to remember YOUR mob trying to get Carra’ sent off at Anfield for EXACTLY the same offence last season (and failing to) AND I remember in 2003 when we conceded a penalty at OT in the NINTH minute and a Yellow Card for Hyppia was changed to a RED after Gary Neville harangued Mike Riley – Strangely silent about THAT aren’t you Fool? Also? Luke Chadwick in 2000 and Nemanja Vidic in 2009 were BOTH sent off for EXACTLY what O’Shea did on Sunday when their victims (Vladimir Smicer and Steven Gerrard) were FURTHER away from goal than Fernando Torres was so WHY should O’Shea have stayed on? Nani or Ronaldo dive “purposefully – trying to get players sent off?” so you ADMIT it then? You’ve just TORPEDOED your OWN argument prat – WHAT comeback can a United fan MOANING about Torres have after admitting his OWN cheating bunch of showponie…..ahem Players are DIVERS to? Exactly, NONE.

    Never mind how “purposeful/penetrating” and supposedly great your football was on Sunday – We’ll dish out the SAME to you with INTEREST in March at Anfield – You’ve LOST there on your last two visits and it WILL be 3 in a row in March 2011. We Will BATTER YOU……Again and your second rate outfit will have NO favourable Home Ref’ decisions like Webb’s leniency on Sunday to save you THIS time – Nothing on Earth will save you from defeat when you come to Anfield – Just remember Andrew? What goes around? Comes around and the Wheel of Life is Bringing around TO United now a taster of what Liverpool have suffered for 2 decades now whilst for Liverpool? Who knows? Maybe a return to where they once were and after all Ferguson’s work to, he’s STILL behind us with little chance of catching us in the foreseeable due to that Rampant Chelsea side who are roaring away at the top already – No wonder he hates us – I would to if I was him. Oh well, the names, insults etc are all in jest no? It’s only football and we should BOTH be proud that no English side comes (or Will Come) CLOSE to either of our sides in Honours Won. We Each stand alone at the Top. Until next we joust then – Adieux as they say in France……………..

  9. Tom says:

    Simon you badly need to get a life. I’m guessing you’re 11 so it’s not to late.

    In Rafa we trusted

  10. David Watts says:

    Looks like the Scouse vitriol is at full steam after the weekend….LFC may have an easier route to being free from the yanks than United…but unless it’s a multi billionaire that is taking over they shouldn’t expect instant success. The “Stadium” still needs to be built in order for match day revenues to rise….And even then, can Liverpool actually fill it? The fickle nature of their support was shown just the other night Vs Steau…fact is, even when Liverpool were the dominant force in the 70’s and 80’s they were not the best supported team in the country. Secondly, their team also needs some very serious investment…Mr Gerrard only has a couple of years left with the style of football he plays and the injuries he has sustained, whilst Torres will be off if the trophies don’t start coming. Funny that United’s Ageing and Weakened squad (As Mr Worden labeles them)completely outplayed his beloved Liverpool team on Sunday

    United do indeed have larger debt and the Glazers are dug in firmly gradually “Stealling” millions from the club….When the debt gets too big and critical mass is reached there will be a BIG fall out at United and that will no doubt mean lean times, BUT with stadium in place and the brand name of United (I do hate to call it that) as big as it is globally, they will bounce back much quicker when the finances do get sorted out as the potential revenue was exceeds that at any other football club. The Green and Gold campaign needs to keep momentumn and be ready to mobilise when this time comes. Ironically, the longer the Glazers are in charge, the stronger MUST should get meaning they should be in position to help with a bid.

    In the meantimes, lets see how Chelsea get on at Citeh next week and at home to Arsenal the week after, if they come through those two fixtures with max points we know they are the real deal….Can’t make a proper judgement on them after playing West Brom, Blackpool, West Ham, Wigan and Stoke all of whom will probably finish bottom 8.

  11. Simon Worden says:

    Ignore last post – It was misprint with certain sections copied – It SHOULD read like this;

    Andrew C – “Manchester United are the envy of you all?” Hmm, just tell me a moment Idiot WHOSE fans sing about burning WHOSE on bonfires as I don’t hear many Manc’ based songs at LIVERPOOL games – As to the rest of your utter CRAP in that so-called ‘post’ saddo? Alex Ferguson LEARNED all he knows from the one manager who can (and DID) crap on him from a great height – Bob Paisley – WHOSE Teams do you think your great sides of the 90’s were based on – Fergie built a United version of LIVERPOOL!!! “The envy of you all”? I think not – United want to BE Liverpool NOT the other way around – We’re STILL ahead of you in European Trophies AND trophies overall – Deal with it but you can’t can you? Hence your CRAP here – The ENVY of us shines through in EVERY word – Always has done – Always WILL do – United want to BE Liverpool.

    Basically, I said you are “voyeurs” to our club because? You ARE – The FIRST thing Fergie did when he came down from Aberdeen was go on record about how he wanted to oust Liverpool and occupy THEIR position at the top of English Football – He spoke of his envy of their resources and brilliant sides at that time MANY times in interviews. Since then? Despite hardly a challenge from us – He goes on NON-STOP about us as does your ENTIRE Fanbase – ALL he does is talk of overtaking us as do your players and fans – It CONSUMES you – You want to BE Us as in “THE most SUCCESSFUL Club in England” which currently? You are NOT. Our clubs used to be friends as recently as the 60’s – Liverpool LENT United players after Munich so they could Field a team, Shankly, Busby, Paisley and Docherty were ALL great friends of one another and even Ron Atkinson got on OK with Joe Fagan and Kenny Dalglish – But not Ferguson – HE poisoned the well, HE killed all that – HE started this war and now? After THREE Decades nearly? He STILL can’t win it – How he must HATE us for that…………

    As to your “victories on the pitch” ridding you of debt? Are you utterly THICK and devoid of mental capability? To ACHIEVE those victories you NEED to spend more on players – the MORE you do that? The more the money EARNED from those victories goes on paying off the debts you incur BUYING those players – VERY little of it pays off the total debt as you’re always to busy reinvesting it in the team to stay on top but ALL the time – Your truly MASSIVE debt which DWARFS Liverpool’s by about 5 times over is getting bigger and bigger and bigger and……Something HAS to give eventually and I wouldn’t be at ALL surprised to see United go bankrupt under the weight of their debt LONG before they pay it off. United can be as “properly run” as they like but they will NOT withstand the sheer MOUNTAIN of debt they are already GROANING under forever and one day VERY soon? There WILL be a reckoning…………..

    And to your other verbal diarrhea? Last Thursday Night? I was watching MY team show YOURS how it’s done at HOME in Europe against a BETTER European Side than the rubbish Scots outfit who held your two bob outfit at HOME (you battered them 3 – 0 last time you played them there – Oh for the days of Diego Forlan eh? Never mind Van Nistlerooy, Solksjaer and of course Ronaldo – ALL long gone – Poor United).

    BTW – You said about trying to get players sent off? I seem to remember YOUR mob trying to get Carra’ sent off at Anfield for EXACTLY the same offence last season (and failing to) AND I remember in 2003 when we conceded a penalty at OT in the NINTH minute and a Yellow Card for Hyppia was changed to a RED after Gary Neville harangued Mike Riley – Strangely silent about THAT aren’t you Fool? Also? Luke Chadwick in 2000 and Nemanja Vidic in 2009 were BOTH sent off for EXACTLY what O’Shea did on Sunday when their victims (Vladimir Smicer and Steven Gerrard) were FURTHER away from goal than Fernando Torres was so WHY should O’Shea have stayed on? Nani or Ronaldo dive “purposefully – trying to get players sent off?” so you ADMIT it then? You’ve just TORPEDOED your OWN argument prat – WHAT comeback can a United fan MOANING about Torres have after admitting his OWN cheating bunch of showponie…..ahem Players are DIVERS to? Exactly, NONE.

    Never mind how “purposeful/penetrating” and supposedly great your football was on Sunday – We’ll dish out the SAME to you with INTEREST in March at Anfield – You’ve LOST there on your last two visits and it WILL be 3 in a row in March 2011. We Will BATTER YOU……Again and your second rate outfit will have NO favourable Home Ref’ decisions like Webb’s leniency on Sunday to save you THIS time – Nothing on Earth will save you from defeat when you come to Anfield – Just remember Andrew? What goes around? Comes around and the Wheel of Life is Bringing around TO United now a taster of what Liverpool have suffered for 2 decades now whilst for Liverpool? Who knows? Maybe a return to where they once were and after all Ferguson’s work to, he’s STILL behind us with little chance of catching us in the foreseeable due to that Rampant Chelsea side who are roaring away at the top already – No wonder he hates us – I would to if I was him. Oh well, the names, insults etc are all in jest no? It’s only football – there are FAR more important things as the birth of my son last May showed me – but ON the pitch? I think we should BOTH be proud that no English side comes (or Will Come) CLOSE to either of our sides in Honours Won. We Each stand alone at the Top. Until next we joust……………..

    NB Frank “Envy, nonsense and juvenile opinions” from us? I think not – We have cogent arguments with history and OUR opinions backing them up – If you disagree as YOUR position is different then fine but to name them all that BECAUSE they disagree with you is? Well rather juvenile really………….(There may have been a HINT of bitterness and anger though as we ARE talking about defeat to a side we recently went FIVE seasons without even SCORING against in the league never mind beating and SEVEN Seasons without defeating at home – THAT kind of record can get into fans heads a bit and is BOUND to leave some anger when we lose to you after the kind of fightback we saw yesterday but at least we FOUGHT – which is more than we did in ALL of Benitez’ seasons at Old Trafford bar three).

    Basically? A lot of the responses were as they were due to the condescending, sarcastic and PATHETIC nature of the article INTENDED to cause arguments – If and I KNOW it’s a big IF being a United Article on their ‘Enemy’ Liverpool but IF it had been an adult, mature and insightful article? Then we MIGHT have responded accordingly but it was not, so we did not. I also think there might be a rather more steep reversal of fortunes between United and Liverpool’s CURRENT positions than many United fans think with a change of owners (which WILL happen at Liverpool soon – At United? We will see) but as ever? Time will tell, sooner or later? TIME will tell…………

    NNB I thought Liverpool hung back a bit when they COULD of dominated the game as they did during their ‘equalising and threatening’ period. I believe we thought the United of 3 seasons ago would show up but they did not as they are very FAR from the team they were back then. I was proud of our fightback but also thought it was a FATAL error by Hodgson to take off Meireles when he was DOMINATING the middle and replace him with Jovanavic – He SHOULD have brought on Babel to maintain a threat but did not – Sat us back, removed our momentum and rhythm and ultimately? We paid the price for his first half cowardice – I DID think we held United with relative ease for 40 odd minutes in the first half and WOULD have gone in without conceding IF Konchesky had done his job mind.

    Still it was a FAR better effort than ANY we put in at OT under Benitez bar those in 2009 and 2004 I think. Think back to our game there in October 2006 Andrew C or That in March 2008 – THOSE were gutless surrenders of the sort you imply Yesterday was. Yesterday? We were unlucky in the end but probably not deserving after the First Half. Overall though? United are nothing special this season and will be hard-pressed to keep up with Chelsea this term – There’s VERY little chance of them overtaking the Blues IMO. This United are NOT the supreme attacking force of 2007/2008 or the unbreachable Chinese Wall style defensive side of 2008/2009. They’re deficient in both areas and over the season? It WILL show – I think maybe City or Arsenal are better placed to challenge the Blues in 2010/2011 and Liverpool? Are rebuilding again……AGAIN. We shall see where it all leads in May as ever. Oh well, onto the next games and until we meet again………………….

  12. Simon Worden says:

    It’s NOT vitriol David Watt – It’s MAINLY a response to the Infantile, goading nature of the above so-called ‘article’. As to LFC being taken over? We’ll see just WHO takes them over but what H & G have NOT noticed in their frentic thrashings to hold onto us and what YOU to have overlooked my friend is? The Fact that the WORSE it gets at Liverpool? The EASIER it will be for ANY substantial investment to restore them near the top – WHY? Well, the worse Liverpool get, the LOWER their eventual sale price will be thereby leaving MILLIONS that might have otherwise been spent lining the pockets of Penfold nad the Fat Texan which can instead be used for team building AND getting the stadium off the ground as a viable project – WHEN the stadium is built? And it WILL be – It will be a WHOLE different ball-game although WHY they don’t just expand Anfield having bought nearly a MILE of land around it, I’ll never know…………

    It’s true we weren’t the best supported in the 70’s and 80’s but WHO was? Football was in a DEEP hole back then with the Government declaring virtual war on it, TV turning it’s back on the game after the twin disasters at Heysel and Hillsborough and the game basically? Dying on it’s feet without the oxygen of publicity it now sucks up freely in the modern era. As to the so-called “fickle nature” of our support v Steaua Bucharest? Nope – AGAIN you misread the FACTS. THAT was a boycott aimed at Europa League games and aimed at attacking our owners where it REAlly hurts them; In their pockets. Don’t United have similar boycotts yet? YOU have been owned 2 years LONGER Than us and thus had LONGER to attack the Glazers – Or is that “Green and Gold” stuff the extent of your assaults on them thus far? If so, it’s NOT working yet is it?

    In addition regarding the remarks you made about our TEAM? It’s not investment we need ONLY but not as much as you think – It’s ORGANISATION. Under Rafa’ we developed a STYLE and METHOD that made us one of THE most efficient/effective and fearsome to play against sides in the whole of Europe but the players who were the HEART of that system have GONE over the last 2 seasons and their replacments are as yet untested – NOR do we have a system to accomodate them all. They MIGHT work in the ‘Rafa’ system but as yet? Roy hasn’t had much time to work them ALL into it due to suspensions, internationals and injuries. We will see in the coming months just HOW he shoehorns our players into some sort of side but I have high hopes for the likes of Meireles, Cole, Babel and N’gog under Roy.

    As to the game? United’s ageing and weakened squad (and they ARE now – Compare THIS United side to that of 07/08 or even 08/09 and you will see what I mean Mr Watt) outplayed us because we ALLOWED Them to – Look at the middle period of the second half when we DOMINATED the match and United barely TOUCHED the ball – THAT is what we’re capable of WHEN we attack and INTEND to Dominate a side. But for some reason? Roy brought us to Old Trafford to play the Tortoise – hide in our shells for a half, get stung by a goal or two – SNAP out of said shell, do a bit of damage to our complacent and overconfident hosts then? Go back to sleep, turn off the alarm clock and slink back into our shell to hold out ALL attacks.

    Those tactics didn’t work and they were never GOING to – They MIGHT of worked if Roy had left a credible threat on the pitch to replace that provided by Meireles passing when the Portuguese left but he didn’t so we lost. But it was nothing LIKE any number of surrenders at Old Trafford I could describe under Benitez or Roy Evans – Houllier had the knack of winning there which Roy hasn’t yet got.

    Finally with regard to YOUR club’s vampires the Glazers? As opposed to OURS in Hicks and Gillette? Let me make one thing utterly CLEAR – I was ONLY responding to the mocking, sarcastic and “can’t wait to see Liverpool ruined” nature of a lot of posts on here AND the Article itself – I do NOT wish to see those Yank Chancers ruin either Liverpool OR United – IF United are going to fcuk it up spectacularly as they so memorably did in the 70’s? Then they SHOULD do it on the pitch – It should NOT be as a result of their club becoming a meal-ticket/money-making investment vehicle for a family of VAMPIRES who’ve NEVER done a day’s work in their miserable useless excuses for lives – That goes TREBLE of course for Liverpool!!!!

    I agree that with the stadium and brand name in place United WILL bounce back much quicker as the revenue exceeds that at any other football club CURRENTLY – I happen to believe that WHEN Liverpool are bought out and build their stadium and WHEN United fall under the Glazers might just coincide and THAT will give Liverpool the time if not to MATCH United’s revenues from THEIR brand name and new stadium (and Liverpool are the ONLY other British Club who are a worldwide ‘brand’ like United)then certainly to Maximise their own which MIGHT just make them second only to United in overall revenue – Then? It really WILL be a whole different ball-game ON the pitch and Liverpool might one day conceivably Match United’s income. They will certainly have the BASE to do so once all this has occurred – and it WILL do sooner or later.

    Basically? Manchester United have been able to use their position AND their income to stave off ‘natural selection’ in football as it were (the dying out of their success and it’s replacment by another club or clubs) by BUYING their way back into contention whenever they started to slip – the weakness in that was always What would happen if someone got hold of United, used them for their OWN ends and ignored their footballing needs? Now we are finding out and Liverpool might JUST get the timeframe they need to kick down the financial door United and Football as a Business have each shut in their face since the mid 90’s.

    Your Green and Gold campaign WILL succeed one day as we at Anfield with SOS and ‘Yanks Out’ are finding – Every DAY these vampires are in charge makes them WEAKER as the club’s fans find out en masse what they are up to and more and more numbers turn AGAINST them/refuse to fund them anymore and this in turn damages the club AND their hold on it – In the end? Numbers WILL tell and the Yanks’ holds on their clubs WILL be loosened as the clubs will be to WEAK for them to hold AND they will have been FAR to damaged by fan revolts financially – This point has been reached FAR sooner than I thought at Anfield but it WILL come at Old Trafford to David – Keep on fighting my Friend until the Glazers dugout from where they are ‘Dug in’? Is under DIRECT Shellfire from your fans as it were – Yanks OUT of BOTH clubs!!!!

    To conclude? I NEVER thought I’d say this EVER but I think here? United and Liverpool or at least their fans? Might JUST be natural allies of one another. For once? We have a common purpose and a shared enemy – one who is NOT either of our clubs but instead? Their insidious, leeching, vampiric owners. The sooner BOTH clubs remove their owners and go back to worrying about ON the pitch events? The better for English Football………..

    NB. Chelsea with their confidence sky high from the Wigan, West Brom, Stoke and Blackpool games will probably walk all over City and Destroy Arsenal as usual. But as you said, we shall see soon enough……..

  13. Frank says:

    @Simon, your posts are meant to be a bad joke right?

  14. Get behind United and together we can rule the World. says:

    Manchester United has always been englands biggest and most successful club, we not only put this countrys football on the map but also broke the records we set in the first place, without United, the english game would be extremely weak. Liverpool, a fine club yet always be in second place, always chasing our shadow, always desperately trying to catch up yet coming up short…shankly and paisley were desperate to be up there with Sir Matt yet failed get anywhere near, always in our shadow.

  15. Frank Scicluna says:

    I have to congratulate you Simon. With just a few words – actually, that should be with quite a few words, you managed to sort out ALL the dire financial and playing problems facing your club. Then you fixed up United’s ills for good measure! It’s hard to fathom why you are NOT the General Manager, Chief Executive, Football Manager of the Senior, Youth and Academy sides, Media Manager, Marketing Executive, Kit Manager and chief bottle washer in the kitchen at Anfield! Mate, you have the answer to EVERYTHING that’s wrong at Anfield AND Old Trafford. On top of that you have the knack of outpredicting Nostradamus himself when it comes to telling us what’s about to happen at both clubs. There’s only one minor problem Simon, you need to securely tighten a few screws which have become dangerously loose in your brain!

  16. Danny Salford Red says:

    Is Simon a Crackhead???????

  17. EDDIE WAKER says:

    well done simon you have shown that the mancs sit at the alter that is liverpool fc it consumes their life taggart has spent a lifetime in our shadow These morons are no more than tourists old trafford is day out with the wife and kids going to anfield is a pilgrimage

  18. Simon Worden says:

    Danny and Frank? IF you’ve nothing constructive to say in Response to my posts? Say NOTHING at all as the saying goes – My last post was aimed at David Watt – Do I see YOUR names being David or anything LIKE it? No. So If you’re ONLY going to insult me? Fuck off and Don’t Reply. I stated what is LIKELY to happen on the way both clubs have been going recently and what I say IS fact – Liverpool WILL be bought out at some point and they WILL build a new stadium – Equally? United’s Debt WILL one day cause that club to reach Critical Mass WHEN (and it WILL) it reaches a point that they cannot support it any longer by.

    As to the “Get Behind United” Idiot?

    “Manchester United has always been englands biggest and most successful club” have they? Erm nope. You’ve NOT been THE most successful Club in England for 3 decades or more – The biggest maybe but ONLY in recent years – It’s a known FACT that in the late 80’s when Liverpool’s success was attracting support to us that made us Dangerously close to United’s levels of support? That the United board took fright, sacked Atkinson and Hired Alex Ferguson.

    “we not only put this countrys football on the map but also broke the records we set in the first place” What records would that be? Most League Championships? Nope, Most European Cups? Nope; RETAINING the European Cup? Nope So WHAT records DID you set? Other than winning the World Club Championship and the most FA Cups? You haven’t even got the record number of LEAGUE Cup Wins OR Trophies overall so I repeat – WHAT records did you break?. Heck, until Sunday – No United player had a Hat-trick against Liverpool since the 50’s was it?

    Without United? Liverpool would stand unchallenged at the very pinnacle of the English Game instead of United standing ALONGSIDE (NOT Above) them. The English Game would be no weaker – It wasn’t in the 70’s when United were in the Second Division was it? “Liverpool, a fine club yet always be in second place, always chasing our shadow, always desperately trying to catch up yet coming up short”?
    I think it’s the OTHER way around mate – YOU have been chasing US for nigh on 4 decades now since the mid-70’s, THREE of them under Ferguson and you STILL haven’t caught us no? You STILL haven’t got the League Title or European Cup Records Fergie so craves along with your support.

    In fact? you STILL only have the outright lead in terms of FA Cups only to show for all your endeavour and your support STILL can’t accept that OR count properly if you are anything to go by and it REALLY gets to you no? Why else do your deluded hordes SING about US ALL the time and at EVERY game? Isn’t your OWN club’s success enough? Is OUR failure really SO important to you? And you call US small time? United are a fine club yes but it is THEY who are in OUR shadow and always have been – And don’t you United fans just have a HUGE complex about it?

    Shankly and Paisley wanted to be “up there with Sir Matt”? I think not since Shanks took over Liverpool when Busby was coming to the end of his managership and built Liverpool himself with NOTHING to do with United. Bob Paisley took it onto another Level after Bill retired and did the ONE thing even United have never done by enabling Liverpool to conquer England AND Europe Simultaneously and REPEATEDLY. They “failed to get anywhere near” did they? I think again you’ll find otherwise – It was United who failed to get anywhere near US under Bill and Bob – DON’T rewrite history – It’s a fact that we won and RETAINED the European Cup under Bill and Bob and DOMINATED England to an extent unseen again until Ferguson’s pomp at United. Liverpool were the first English club to win MORE than one European Cup, WE were the first to retain it and the first to dominate in England AND Europe NOT United – Bob Paisley? Taught Ferguson ALL he knows – WHO do you think he based United’s modern teams ON?

    We “Failed to get anywhere near” you did we? Fergie turned United INTO Liverpool under another banner!!! Your teams now are EVERYTHING ours used to be – Fergie is EVERYTHING (bar the classy behaviour) Bob Paisley once was as a manager but even HE is not in the great man’s class – Check the result of the one time the two met in DIRECT competition if you DON’T believe me AND research Ferguson’s OWN words on Paisley for further proof – Liverpool TAUGHT United everything they know!!! You ARE what we were but you STILL can’t match us can you? HOW that must gall no? Now then – Count up trophies mate, look at the HISTORY of the two clubs, look at the PATH Ferguson followed, who he LEARNED From and WHAT he learned from them. Look at ALL that, be objective For ONCE, take into account your own club’s fans behaviour re Liverpool and then? Come back and tell me Again – WHO is in WHOSE shadow? Because there’s only ONE club here with an inferiority complex AND an inferior Trophy Record and it’s NOT Liverpool. Our shadow is STILL long after all those years no? Maybe not as large as it once was but I’ll tell you ONE thing – It’s STILL long enough to encompass United …….

  19. Danny Salford Red says:

    Simon Id love to get into a battle of wits with you pal but you are clearly un-armed. There is so much absolute garbage written in each of your very long very boring posts i literally dont know where to start nor do i have the time to point out that you are talking sh*t when everyone with eyes can see this for themselves.

  20. Danny Salford Red says:

    Oh and Simon in regard to records as the old saying goes, “have you ever won the treble have you f*ck?” 🙂 And i dont mean that plastic one you won under Houllier either

  21. Andrew C says:

    simon.. if you think im reading any of that fella… youre even thicker than i thought… bullet points please.. haha

  22. Simon Worden says:

    Danny Salford Red – How does the OTHER old saying go? “Have you ever RETAINED the European Cup, Have you Fuck” And I don’t mean that one-off Flukey cup you won in 1999 either (which is now in OUR museum after our FIFTH victory in our SIXTH final – More than your whole CLUB has had as yet). Trebles? Yep we’ve won them before – the one under Houllier wasn’t the ONLY one we won – Check the record books if you don’t believe me. Anyway the Treble is old news – Inter Milan and Barcelona have BOTH Won the Treble more recently than YOUR sorry outfit.

    Andrew C – WHY should I cut down my points for your benefit? TRY reading them – you might find that rarest of things on here. A decent argument. Danny Salford Red? I talk things as I see them and I use FACTS and what is happening NOW to back up those arguments – Get into a battle of wits with me if you wish but it is YOU who will be undermanned and lightly armed – You should remember the Japanese Saying “Those who know don’t talk and those talk don’t know” – YOU are the one talking of knowing more than me – I haven’t said a word about being cleverer than YOU – I’ve just put forward my points. That’s all – So which one of us Doesn’t know? Why don’t you Look in the mirror and find out mate? The result might upset you a little though……………..

  23. Frank Scicluna says:

    Can everybody please stop responding to the Anfield imbecile. He may then get bored and go to something like the Empire of the Kop where the quality of garbage is up to his standard.

  24. Danny Salford Red says:

    Yeah but Frank mate we are obsessed with them remember and cant stop talking about them and after all its us that are on another teams blog site writing essays……………oh wait a minute 🙂

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