http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/ The Manchester United zone for all true fans Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:27:49 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14357 Frank Scicluna Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:56:24 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14357 What started out as a commentary on Manchester Uniteds visit to Ibrox next week has turned into a Rangers-Celtic debate so it's now best not to accept any further comments http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14356 hokeycokey Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:29:30 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14356 I see the bheasts are doing what they do best here, ie lying. I'll start from the bottom up. Bob - A lie by a bheast at the Scottish Sun Mark Boyle - Rangers had no policy. Rangers HAVE had players who blessed themselves. How would you know if you didn't attend matches. Shota Arveladze was one I can remember off the top of my head. The banning of green pepperamis and straws is an urban myth. The Green pepperamis are still there, and there never were green straws to ban. They're black, like they always have been The last statement by Frank is bizarre, as is the original article. Many many European matches have seen many many players bless themselves at Ibrox, with not as much as a whimper from the home support. As for the rants of the bheasts, I suggest reading the following two blogs http://sweepingsince1888.blogspot.com/ http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/ And you should know that the poppy protest banner was a tribute to the terrorist murder gang who blew your city to smithereens in 1996 http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/James_Connolly If you've got a short memory this is what the ba5tards did to your city. http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/bomb1.jpg http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14355 Stevie Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:20:41 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14355 Rab, You say you have no interest in Celtic or Celtic fans. Why then do you have virtually no songs proclaiming your love for your own team, 99% of your songs profess your deep hatred of Catholics and your hatred of Celtic. You speak of lies, yet never have I heard a single Rangers fan admit, as the Church of Scotland admitted that the real reason for the disgusting bigotry in Scotland was the anti Catholic hatred preached from the pulpits in the Church of Scotland. They have thankfully admitted it and are commendably trying to move on and repair the damage they caused. Why then can't Rangers fans move on and sing songs of their love for Rangers and forget the songs of hatred? Likewise I would love the Celtic away support to stop singing their songs regarding the IRA. Move on and stick to our many many songs of the love of our club. As for the its only a minority rubbish, the football ground I have attended most in the home end is far and away at Celtic Park, but easily the second most attended home end in Scotland is at Ibrox and I am not talking once or twice, but hundreds of times, the vast majority of times Celtic were not playing but I have seen Dundee Hibs Thistle Hearts Dundee United etc etc and even some European teams ties as well. I have even been to Celtic Park to watch Rangers Hearts in a Scottish Cup semi, so please dont give me the its only a minority rubbish. I would be far closer to the truth to say that I was in the minority by not singing. In fact my Rangers supporting friend who was driving that night forgot that I was in the car as he gave a little sign to the Catholic Church as we drove past. And for the Rangers fans who peddle that line then complain about Celtic fans saying Rangers are sectarian are peddling lies is shameful. I have also attended the home end and away ends in Edinburgh Aberdeen Motherwell and Kilmarnock and the absolute worst I have encountered was Motherwell then Tyncastle then Ibrox then Rugby Park. Although I am a born and bred Scot as are my parents grandparents and great grandparents, the hatred in this country makes me sick and ashamed. I have sat in the away ends in Barcelona, Milan, Amsterdam and so on wearing my hoops with pride and never had a single problem. During some of the games I exchanged scarves with the home fans and they wore my Celtic scarf and I wore their Barca scarf for example during the games. The hatred in Scotland makes me sick and ashamed to be a Scot and I no longer go to football. The rest of Scotland is moving on slowly, but moving on! The SFA is a corrupt organisation that has robbed Scottish football of all credibility, eventually this will be proven beyond doubt. Rab it was the O'Donnell family who asked for the postponement since Phil played for both teams and they just could not face it at that time. I didnt check your stats on 12 games in 22 days, so will accept your figures, they are however, unremarkable and plenty of teams have had to do this or similar. None to my knowledge have had the national association try to run roughshod by extending the season to advantage one team and to try to reorganise the national cup final to advantage that same team. None had the national association come out in the press to advocate this gerrymandering and try to garner public support for it. The SFA is a corrupt organisation that has already been caught withholding players registrations, so that new signings miss games, Scottish referees have been caught falsifying match reports and telling lies to team managers, their own supervisors and to the national media. The referee supremo has been caught furthering that lie and deception on national radio and been caught forwarding a sectarian email to approximately 20 of his friends, including other SFA employees and doing this from his official SFA email address. An SFA employee has put forward erroneous information ragarding the resignation of a referees assistant to try to deflect the blame on to Celtic fans by making up stories of threats to the official in question which he has officially denied. When the truth of the matter is actually that the referee tried to pass the buck on to him. How honest is that? The SFA is totally corrupt and has zero credibility. http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14354 Unrepentant F. B. Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:13:24 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14354 ALLY Says: November 17th, 2010 at 8:41 PM scrub that a fanny is usefull i have celtic supporters do my cleaning ALLY Is that because the Celtic Supporters in question are your parents? Or is it that you're just a delusional fucktard that pretends to have cleaners, but is in reality an unemployable halfwit with the IQ of a piece an' brown sauce? _____________________________________ Bouncy Bear... I find it easier to believe that world peace can be achieved by the end of the week, than believing you have never belted out the songs of hate at Ibrox. Its very easy to take the moral highground and fain inteligence on the interweb. Unless of course you are the Bouncy Bear from the BBC 606 Forums, in which case I take back what I said previously as you are online during every Rangers match and therefor are not present to join in with the party songs and playful banter... ______________________________________ Lothian Says: November 17th, 2010 at 4:01 PM Do your fans sing of the IRA on a weekly basis, the same IRA that blew a hole in Manchester and managed to kill innocent children – Check I'd uncheck that one, young man. The foul IRA chants from the Green Brigade are only sung at the away venues. Don't let facts get in the way of a good forum deflection. _______________________________________ The facts are there for all to see. They do not need garnished by Celtic Fans, and they certainly can not be swept under the carpet, or deflected by the more literate Rangers fans on this forum. A simple search on the interweb will show that the scaremongering within the original article isn't so far from the truth. There isn't smoke without fire afterall. Moving on... I had no idea so many of the Chelsea infiltrators that instigated and participated in the Manchester riots lived in Glasgow! Every one of them... Succulent Lamb and fine wine is more effective than any spin doctor. Just ask Sir David Murray. Just because it isn't heavily reported in the Scottish Media doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and is a major problem. Thank you for your time. Unrepentant F. B. xxx http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14351 jimibhoy Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:25:11 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14351 Fuk the huns ! legitmate reasons for protesting the poppy on celtics jerseys but none what so ever for a man who is catholic , its not a minoity of fans at ipox its a majority of scotland , scotland is so anti catholic and anti irish . the whole of scotland portray us as paranoid , but its a way of sweeping things under the carpet . tal http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14350 mark Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:23:42 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14350 Unbelievable article. Best comment i could find was let the lad come to ibrox on loan he can cross himself until his littel heart is content. Biggest non story and crap i have read Fergie knows better. Shota was a popular figre at ibrox. I dont know http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14349 bob Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:12:05 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14349 good post Mark, you forgot about them taking Eggs Benedict off the menu in there restaurant, after the election of pope benedict. http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14348 RFC = Scotland's shame! Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:11:59 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14348 In response to the claims that Artur Boruc only blessed himself at Old Firm games in front of the Rangers supporters, I can assure you all that this is absolute nonsense. As a Celtic season ticket holder of many years, I watched Boruc bless himself at the start of every half in every game he played. It was his pre-match ritual and he only ever received abuse for it when we were playing at the shitpit (Ibrox)! But what you should really be asking yourselves is this: If you're all so laidback about religion these days, why did the sight of a catholic player blessing himself send your permarage soaring to frightening new levels?! Rangers supporters really are the scum of the earth and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to learn of sectarian abuse towards Hernandez should he decide to carry out his usual pre-match ritual! Incidentally, I find absolutely hilarious the claims on here that Celtic supporters are obsessed with Rangers. Tell me this, Rangers supporters: How many songs do you have that make no mention of: (a) Catholics; (b) Fenians; (c) The Pope; or (d) Celtic? http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14347 Mark Boyle Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:07:57 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14347 Strange how the Rangers fans on here come back about Artur Boruc blessing himself....or other trivial crap..... Not one sensible, defensive, comment, however, regarding... No Catholics signing policy...... No Rangers player allowed to bless themselves on the pitch............ History of riots wherever they go..... Continual singing of deeply offensive songs ( before you respond with IRA songs...I find them deeply offensive as well ..so shut it...)..... Banning of Green Pepperamis at Ibrox.... Banning of Green straws at Ibrox...... £16:90 for ticket cost at Christmas bash.... The list is endless... Anyway if someone can, sensibly defend, any of the foregoing...go ahead. I won't hold my breath. http://www.trulyreds.com/20101117/uefa-must-not-tolerate-religious-bigotry-at-ibrox/comment-page-2/#comment-14346 ALLY Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:41:48 +0000 http://www.trulyreds.com/?p=8876#comment-14346 scrub that a fanny is usefull i have celtic supporters do my cleaning